Marko Maunula seuraa Yhdysvaltojen politiikkaa ja populaarikulttuuria.

Onko Yhdysvallat valmis sosiaalidemokratiaan?

Marko Maunula
Blogit Americana 25.4.2011 14:26

Tuore tutkimus osoittaa, että ehdoton enemmistö amerikkalaisista haluaa tasaisemman tulonjaon. Sekä demokraatit että republikaanit, rikkaat ja köyhät pitävät skandinaavista mallia omaa systeemiään parempana.

Harvardissa ja Dukessa työskentelevä tutkijapari teki kattavan kyselyn amerikkalaisten asenteista tulonjaon suhteen. Tulokset osoittivat, että amerikkalaiset olivat pahoin väärässä arvioidessaan maansa tulonjakoa. Useimmat uskoivat maan tulonjaon olevan huomattavasti tasaisempi kuin se itse asiassa on. Tutkimus myös osoitti, että 92 prosenttia amerikkalaisista piti Ruotsin tulonjaon mallia huomattavasti omaansa parempana.

Yhdysvallat on edelleen huomattavasti Länsi-Eurooppaa oikeistolaisempi maa. Silti, nyt jopa amerikkalaisten selkeä enemmistö uskoo, että varallisuuden keskittyminen on mennyt liian pitkälle.

Aniharvat republikaanit uskovat, että vaurauden keskittyminen on hyvä asia. Useimmat heistä toimivat vilpittömässä uskossa, että tarjonnan talouspolitiikka johtaa lopulta kaikkien vaurastumiseen sekä rahan valumiseen myös köyhemmän väestönosan taskuihin. Faktat valitettavasti osoittavat, että teoria ei toimi, sillä vaurauden keskittyminen rikkaimmalle viidennekselle on jatkunut jo vuosikymmeniä.

Tutkimus osoittaa aktiivisemman tulonjakopolitiikan olevan vahvassa nosteessa. Myös poliittiset mielipidetiedustelut osoittavat, että maan enemmistö haluaa nostaa rikkaimman kansanosan verotusta.

Yhdysvaltain taloudellinen tilanne ja yleinen mielipide tarjoavat hyviä argumentteja demokraateille, mutta demokraatit ovat, tapansa mukaan, vellihousuilemassa itsensä tappiolle budjettivaje-debateissa.

Soundtrack: Prodigy, Breathe.

Marko Maunula

Kirjoittaja on Yhdysvaltain historian professori Atlantassa.

Keskustelu

Amerikkalaisuus on sairaus, jopa amerikkalaiset itse haluavat sairaudesta eroon.

Amerikkalaisuudella tarkoitetaan maksimaalista oman edun tavoittelua kaikin mahdollisin tavoin, keinoista välittämättä. Amerikkalaisuus raadollisimmillaan tarkoittaa ihmisuhreja, massoittain, yksilön tavoitellessa taloudellista etua.

Normaalissa elämässä kaikki mitataan amerikkalaisessa yhteiskunnassa pelkästään rahalla, vain rahalla on arvoa. Tuohon sairaaseen yhteiskuntapeliin kuuluu vastavuoroisena tapana pöyristyttävä tekopyhyyden tapakulttuuri, toisella kädellä ammutaan ja silvotaan ihmisiä kuoliaaksi sumeilematta saadakseen yhteiskuntapelissä rahaa mittariin jolla omaa arvoa muihin verrataan ja toisaalla ollaan lähes kaikesta jeesustelevia kirkasotsaisia maailmanparantajia jotka haluavat olla ”parempia ihmisiä” raadollisuuden keskellä.

Suomi on euroopan amerikkalaisin maa, ja se näkyy kaikessa. Ulkomailla ei edes kehtaa sanoa olevansa suomesta kotoisin, häpeä on suunnaton. Eurooppalaiset yleensä pitävät suomalaisia ”vähän yksinkertaisina, wanna be-amerikkalaisina”, oman työnsä tosin ammattitaidolla hoitaen, mutta yksilöinä alikehittyneinä rajatapauksina joita siedetään käytännön pakosta (mutta sivistyneesti, eurooppalaiseen tapaan).

Toivottavasti suomeen rantautuu tuo amerikkalaisen autuuden vastavoima, emme olisi enää apinoimassa sitä joka eniten pitää ääntä itsestään (tyhjät tynnyrit kolisevat eniten), alkaisimme olemaan osa eurooppa eikä euroopan häpeäpuu.

Americans are not ready for a social democracy, nor do I expect will it come into practice in our nation. I’ve learned to understand fluent Finnish while I have been here, and the differences between Finland and the United States amaze me. What Finnish people fail to realize is that Americans vote based on party lines, this means that they are not voting for policies, they are voting based on years of tradition within family, friends or community. In Finland, the level of education is phenomenal, and the country is very small. With five million people, a social democracy is a realistic idea, but with three hundred million people, it’s almost a joke.

From its foundations, the United States was based on the fundamental principle that ’a person is capable of amassing great wealth’ and creating a new nation, without limits. The ’trickle-down economic theory’ largely supported by Republicans is the idea that the richest Americans will amass a great deal of wealth, improve industry, and this will create new jobs and infrastructure for middle class and especially poorer Americans.

This ideology will not change, without a dramatic revolution, which is not occurring anytime soon. In Finland, the ’community’ of the population is much smaller, therefore increasing taxes on the wealthier is nothing like the tax increases that would be needed in the United States, to provide more of a welfare state for Americans. It’s a phenomenal sum of money, and it goes against core American values. If you go to any American news network page, you will find article after article about people who are afraid that their liberties and rights are being taken away, by laws, restrictions, … even in schools, where a teacher will say something that doesn’t quite suit the taste of the parent, and the entire community will be in an uproar because of it.

Americans are defined by their values, and the fact that ’nobody can take away my freedoms.’ Listen to Lee Greenwood’s ’Proud to be an American’ and you’ll understand very well. ’I’m proud to be an American, where at least I know I’m free’ … ’and they can’t take that away.’

We are defined by a core wish to be ’free’ and this is why a truly social democracy will not emerge in the United States. We have an inherent fear of the word ’social’ from history, an uneducated fear, but it exists. It’s why Republicans despise Obama. For democrats, a social democracy sounds fantastic, except all policymakers know that it simply isn’t possible in a country of well over 300 million people.

So to say that ’Amerikkalaisuus on sairaus’ is entirely wrong. You have to understand that to be an ’American’ is the one thing that Americans are proudest of. It is a defining trait, and it is not a sickness, it is absolutely a virtue.

”Tuore tutkimus osoittaa, että ehdoton enemmistö amerikkalaisista haluaa tasaisemman tulonjaon. Sekä demokraatit että republikaanit, rikkaat ja köyhät pitävät skandinaavista mallia omaa systeemiään parempana.”

Tutkimukset nyt voivat osoittaa mitä osoittaa. Tosiasia kuitenkin on, että jos amerikkalaiset oikeasti haluaisivat tasaisemman tulojaon, niin he myös toimisivat sen eteen, eivätkä vaan selittäisi kantojaan tutkijoille. Eipä senpuoleen näinhän meilläkin mielellään puhellaan kaikenmaailman kyselijöille puutaheinää, ja sitten toimitaan aivan päinvastoin.

Emily,

Your message came over heard loud an clear. It was exactly what one would expect from US citizen.

However I believe you have followed media, Fox or not, and couldn’t have missed the fact how many liberties you have already given up for government and law enforcement nice 9/11 for example and how much people complain about it.

I bet you wouldn’t have believed if someone told you 10 years ago, before the incident, what will the US* be today regarding the civil liberties and how much people will give and have given away. It’s sad, but it’s true and already happened fact. If you find hard to notice anything, think of TSA and airport security today at US. Also how and what the Patriot Act is good subject to study.

*) I don’t like to refer US as America as those continents have vast number of people living which don’t have much to do with US specifically (Canada, Mexico, Central-America, South-America, Caribean…). Some say that use America_s_ when you refer to all of those, but I better not because people read fast and that ”s” gets unnoticed too easy.

Anyway, back to issue.

True, US people are afraid and I would even say allergic to word socialism, no doubt about it. People were so furiously fighting against Obama administration Health program claiming it socialist and communism that it became quite obvious that this is still fact.

In the other hand banksters of the Lehman Brothers free capitalism cost $155 B investors money many of which ordinary people pension money. About same amount ($154 B) was used tax payers money to bail out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Doesn’t seem to matter which way you go, tax payer is the one who suffers most of the recklessness acts of the others. Former was strict capitalistic solution and latter more socialistic approach, suffering payer remained the same.

Sure people don’t like it there losing money, who does here either. Many lost money here to because of those events. And it’s hard to believe that will change in long run either. Those may have been unique events in a way, but other events will likely follow as the spending more than earning is so dear for many there. US would be halt in few short weeks if China and some friendly Arabic investors would stop lending more money there.

The staggering speed of US growing foreign dept is the fact US living people will need to start working on or catastrophe, a financial tsunami, will hit US economy and tax payer worse than ever.

More control is needed or recklessness will continue, and that very same control will not make people happy for sure. If new regulation is not made, the merry go round continues until the bubble burst once again. Now the important part of making that regulation would be it’s fair to all, not just the bankers and big money investors. Socialism is one way of making those rules more fair to ordinary people. I do not promote the whole suite as socialist state á la former east-european style, but northern european and scandinavian way works pretty well even though we have occational and sudden kinks on the way like this Persu -revolution. It’s our home grown TEA party movement, oh dear … life would have been to sweet here without it, apparently.

(Quick anecdote: I did once with my brother a quick calculation 2005 while China’s economy was about same size as France and 1/5 of the US by GDP. US growth rate was about 2-3% and China was soaring 10-12% annually. On that time and with those numbers China would have surpassed US. economy in about 22 years. Our economies has suffered 2007-2009 but China did just short dip and is still going strong, the downturn actually was closing the gap, didn’t make it wider. And it’s only about 14-16 years to go any more. Think if what happens when it surpasses US. economy size. How will that affect US economy and who will make rules then.)

At some point, I assume and also wish, the awakening of US people will happen. It may not be that dramatic as is the current Arabic people awakening, but as the people get more and more online*, get more information also from other sources than local cable news network, they possibly get exposed to different angle of their domestic problems at hand it will start have some different views and ideas how take care of those.

*) many are already online, but AFAIK and possibly due language barrier people at US are not interested that much what happens abroad.

Who cares what those good ideas come from and which -ism was once attached to it. Look at China, it’s still theoretically communist state, but behaves truly hard core conservative capitalist way. Not all that is good, but they have realized that they can and are willing adapt anything which will make them stronger.

And there is nothing we can do to prevent them to pick up ideas and adapting to theirs system. Nor we should, instead we should wish they adapt the truly democratic principles and ways running the country too. It will likely happen, but knowing the country’s long history and practice of hard rule I’m not holding my breath yet. The only thing we can compete with them is to find better ways and sooner than them, getting some headway before they get it too.

Ihmetyttää ja vetää kriittiseksi kyseinen tutkimus. Hyvin heikko artikkeli. Yleistää liikaa, irti kontekstista ja USAn poliittisesta todellisuudesta jos tuloksia katsoo suomalaisten silmin. Varmasti eivät amerikkalaiset ( ei republikaanit, tuskin demokraatitkaan) kannattaisi meidän sosiaalista mallia, jos ehtona olisi 45% verotusaste. Niinkuin Emily huomauttaakin. Mutta onko kiinalaiset valmiita demokratiaan? Sikäläisen kaduntallaajan argumentti on että heitä on niin paljon, että demokratia olisi maassa mahdotonta. Mehän tiedämme että demokratia toimii väestön koosta riippumatta, ja paremmin kuin autokratia. Joten miksei tasaisempi tulonjako olisi mahdollista USAssakin, ja ilman kommunismin uhkaa=) Joten tuohon terminologiaongelmaan viitaten, meillä on onneksi eri konnotaatio sosiaalisella ja sosialistisella, mutta ehkä tuota eroa voitaisi miettiä tarkemmin täälläkin..

Emily-täti kertoi tismalleen mistä on kysymys … aivoraiskattu kansalainen joka uskossaan on vahva, yhden totuuden ja yhden näkemyksen riivaama ihmispolo. Helppo kuljettaa vaikka miinakentälle silvottavaksi, ei turhia kysele, sokea usko vie nirvanaan ja siellä uskonlauluja lauletaan.

I’ll rest my case.

Käykääpä Thaimaassa ja näette mitä ovat suuret tuloerot. Silti ihmiset hymyilevät eikä kukaan hirtä itseään.

Hello, ac… dalai…ihmiset..

Why would you suggest Fox news? It’s insulting to suggest that the only newsbroadcaster who represents greater American values would be Fox, a newsstation that is simply an irritant to millions of democrats across the nation. Democrats don’t like Fox, for the exact reasons you are implying. But the ideals which I am expressing are not those of the Republican Party, and they are not biased party ideals, either. From my studied in international relations, I find it a slight annoyance that if someone mentions American ideals, the feathers of many Europeans go up in irritation. These ideals exist, and they define a nation, a hyperpower, and that cannot be changed. It is threatening and upsetting, but let’s compare it to the European Union, a political union. If this union came to became something even more grounded in European politics, really defining for each person state (not happening in Finland, it seems) then Finnish people would be proud to be a part of it. This is how it is for Americans, and to criticize this pride is absurd.

I realise that you find it strange that airport security and TSA restrictions are tightened, but think back to ten years ago, exactly as you said, and we have the culmination of tens of years of terrorist planning in one single attack, give or take a few misdirected planes. Ten years ago, I would have actually understood perfectly well which was coming, because like studies have shown, literally every American remembers where they were and what they did at the moment they found out. The entire world has flashbulb memories of that day!

The word America should not be used to refer to the United States, as a noun in itself, but the word American is defined specifically for the inhabitants of the United States, in any dictionary. This mix up is frustrating to Europeans, because it seems awfully egocentric to say ’I am an American’ or ’I’m leaving back to America.’ The former is perfectly politically correct, the latter is disastrous, and thank you for pointing it out!

The American tradition of bailing out industry is not anything near socialism. Perhaps it mildly violates the concept of ’free markets’ but in order for it to be socialist, the government would have to engineer a long-term state ownership of this banking industry. The US has a long history of bailing out industry, in the interests of thousands of jobs, entire industries, going back to railroad companies and car companies… I myself am from Detroit and was relieved with the government bailout of GM, it meant that the government staked an interest in preserving nationwide auto industry. I understand that this is a step away from the Republican model that the ’only role of the government is to protect and defend the country’ but this is a bailout that was supported across party lines, and in a world of expanding trade and export dependence, the government is definitely taking on a new role, but it is a far cry from any social democracy.

One principal reason why the United States will not become a social democracy is because of the existence of fifty states, most of with a population easily the size of Finland’s. The United States is a federation, and the Republican model suggests that these indidivual states are better equipped to take care of private needs. Democrats, in turn, believe that it is the role of government in general, to ensure the basic needs of their citizens. Neither party considers a socialist state, and a socialist state is impossible. Education, skills, industrial areas, population, all of these characteristics exist under too great variation, within too large a population, to be collectivized into a social democratic state. In Finland, education is amazing. You know this, be proud of it. Same as health care, … come to think of it, in basically every single ranking in every single area of development Finland comes out on top. (How many number ones does it take for Finland to believe itself?) If I needed to wager a guess on anything, I would guess that despite this tea party glitch, Finland is changing direction. Once the Finnish people realise that they hold a loaded gun, five million educated, brilliant people, fifth best English speakers in the world, world-class companies, … Finland really has capacity in this world, and once that capacity develops, there will finally be an understanding why Americans say ’God bless the USA’ with pride. It’s very much okay to be proud of your nation, and it is a pride I’ve observed in Finland, but it’s watered down with skepticism and doubt, and really all it needs is to be concentrated. And China is hardly communist. It’s communist in the absolute most limited sense that exists. Communism, really, was a 20th century deal, and as the trend has shown, it seems to be quickly falling apart. Democracy is like that red octopus that communism was, it inspires democracy worldwide, we see it in international news. In international news, Dalai. :)

Anyhow, I’m really sorry etten pystynyt kirjoittaa suomeksi, I wish I could. Hopefully I got across loud and clear, like last time..

hienosti sanottu emily. ymmärsin kyllä, olen montaa amerikkalaista tavannut… mielestäni ihan fiksuja tyyppejä

Kuten Emily yllä kirjoitti, niin sosiaalidemokratia toimii pohjoismaisessa yhteiskunnassa, ei välttämättä muualla. Sosiaalidemokratia perustuu yksilön vastuuntuntoon yhteisöstä. Ongelma syntyy kun tarpeeksi suuri osa yhteiskunnasta on muuttunut nettosaajaksi, ja työtätekevät huomaavat elättävänsä myös sellaisia jotka eivät oikeasti halua kantaa kortensa kekoon. Työtätekevät harmistuvat ja turhautuvat, mutta sosiaalidemokraattisella ideologialla ei ole työkaluja tunnustaa tai ratkoa tällaista ongelmaa. Nyt meilläkin vaaleissa nähtiin miten sitten käy.

Yhdysvallat kokonsa ja historiansa puolesta ei voi siirtyä sosiaalidemokratiaan millään tavalla. Heidän ihanteensa on toisenlainen. Eivät he ole väärässä, vaikka meistä pohjoismaalaisista niin tuntuu. Emmekä me ole väärässä, vaikka amerikkalaisilta (monesti) niin tuntuu.

Nimimerkki Dalain amerikkalaisten halveksunta on taas puhdasta ahdasmielisyyttä. Kun on kyse Amerikan mollaamisesta, ahdasmielistä asennetta ei ymmärretä hävetä, vaan sillä ylpeillään.

Yhdysvalloilla on monta ongelmaa edessään, ja heidän ulkopolitiikkansa on hyvin pitkään ollut huonosti hoidettu. Inhimillisellä tasolla heissä ei ole sen suurempaa vikaa. Olen tavannut Yhdysvalloissa aitoja ihmisiä, välittämistä ja auttamisen halua. Varmasti muutaman tekopyhän myös.

hi! oh boy I have to leave to work but I just wanted to say thank you, it is really relieving to find that people are willing to accept Americans, what they stand for, regardless of differences between Americans and European culture. There is undoubtedly a difference between the two, but as fantomen said, neither is wrong and neither is right. The only solution is to co-exist. Myself, I would say that the strongest symbol that President Obama stands for is not his internal policies, but in an attempt to place a new name on the foreign image of the US. He doesn’t come from a Texas oil family, he’s international and he understands diplomacy, and these are the key features which have made him be seen as ’something new’ abroad. Whether it’s changing, up to question. However, about American image – for the last half of the 20th century, the world has watched the US explode into something enormous and all-encompassing, and now the United States is bearing the grunt of this, with nations who are intimidated, frustrated and upset to find an elephant named the U.S. sitting in every sector of every industry. I know that it is irritating, and I know that it is easy to stereotype Americans into uneducated, propaganda drunk people, who love to express themselves and spread garbage everywhere. This is an image that is not true. The most important aspect to remember is that before the 1920s, Americans did not literally know anything about Europe. This emerging role of the United States in world politics is new, for Americans, and for the world. When we chose to become involved in European affairs in the early 20th century, it was at the pleas of European nations, and it has simply been impossible to withdraw completely, once our finances and loans have been circulating between the two continents. This is something we simply have to deal with.

I hope that people can recognize that Americans are a fascinating people, who have grown in a culture of extreme open-mindedness. Finnish people who have visited the United States have loved it, and I have never met an American who did not love the foreigners that they have met. I encourage Finns to go visit, you will find all of your prior images of ’blind Americans who are obsessed with their national identity’ to be wrong. Americans are this enormous, diverse group of people, who all express themselves with the noun ’American’ except for a few radicals, and they laugh and cry together, and most likely if a Finn goes and lives there for more than three years, they will start calling him an American as well, whether he likes it or not. It’s almost as if being American is not about the passport, it’s about a state of mind, and it’s really beautiful. Anyhow, thank you! and MY GOD ITS BEAUTIFUL OUTSIDE! Finland is gorgeous, especially in summer. :)

Oh my, too many things to comment.

I agree most of the things Emily and others brought up about the current state of affairs.

However relying and concentrating heavily how things have been and exactly currently are easily leads ignoring blind spots* we all have and which will effectively lead in to being reactive mode only. In economy it’s often stated disclaimer, that past success does not necessarily predict correctly future value.

*) Nassim Nicholas Taleb (mathematician, former Wall Street investment banker and now writer) has nicely explained in his books Fooled by Randomness and Black Swan. He got many things right, even though critique is justified on some areas he represented.

If society will learn barely its mistakes it will fix issues afterwards only once they happen. By this I do not suggest the administration does not try to act proactively, it does and tries. But it’s hands are tied by the bureaucracy and tight polarized (democrat – conservative) does make it easier to prevent changes from either party than get some advancement. Known fact is that, it’s hard to be prepared and plan properly future if you got too much operative tasks all the time. I’m not blaming current or previous administration here, just bring up why progress is so hard to achieve.

I’ve been thinking previously what would be the root cause of US problems, and I came to the conclusion that it’s stubbornness attitude and especially rather sticking with something you have instead of adapting something better, even after you have been demonstrated the benefits of the substitute (SI -system vs. Imperial Measures etc.). Ordinary people outright reject changes either before understanding the benefits or simply part of the attitude that any change is bad. They would rather believe and wish hard, put trust in God and feelings rather than study the issue and take an educated approach to matter.

It’s sure easier to condemn and label it foreign, unamerican, socialist, evil etc. and then justify by that reasons not to adapt. Not even a bit, because that would be giving a finger to devil. And by this you also throw out the baby with the water.

It’s very hard to get progress unless people at large realize that rejecting changes contradicts with the goal of making progress, and even sustaining leadership as the rest of the world is not equipped with that same attitude. Other countries will prevail later unless US people will get this fact and start acting accordingly.

I’ve got great number of former US colleagues as I have from other parts of the world too. We are all good friends and in touch, and as I understand many share with me views presented here are quite frustrated getting progress, sad that great intentions go so often awry etc. That will happen elsewhere too, but the size of US economy and current standing of US currency in economy will rock the boat ever further away shores of US, did we like it or not. I’m not sure if that will be the case thinking tens of years in future, it might be that China and Asia in general plays greater role in this regard becoming decades.

One thing I’m pretty sure however is that that economical tsunami will hit US unless something else more concrete, beyond printing more money and releasing it to economy devaluing the US currency cannot continue forever. Continuing old way is not possible if you like to survive economically and otherwise.

The matter of fact may be how long will others lend money to US in its own currency until they get enough of the fact that US is printing money and distributing it from back door to pay those loans. (Fact: US I bet the end will come when oil and energy markets gets enough of this Ponzi scheme and vote by feet switching to some other currency or more likely to currency basket which is more stable instrument. THEN it’s hard times and gas will be somewhere $10-$20 gallon and it would not make too many happy campers there.

By all this I mean we at EU hasn’t got our own very much pressing issues needing to take care of, like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0VhS8qXT0

(It’s almost a year old skit already …)

This is a crazy world after all, no matter how much you like and try make sense out of it. Oh my oh my…

Right, I’ve got to go now. Great and inspiring conversation, thanks to all involved.

Miksi USA:n pitäisi olla ”valmis” sosiaalidemokratiaan? Ikään kuin sos-demarius edustaisi jotain korkeampaa kehitystä! Eihän ns. hyvinvointivaltio ole muuta kuin suunnaton kuppausjärjestelmä jossa jokainen eturyhmä yrittää ahnehtia itselleen mahdollisimman paljon muiden kustannuksella. Ketähän ne rikkaat muuten ovat joiden pitäisi maksaa enemmän? Keskiluokkahan maksaa kuitenkin kaikkein suurimman osan veroista molemmin puolin Atlanttia, rikkaitten veronkorotukset eivät merkitse mitään.

Miksi on jotenkin ”oikeudenmukaista” että poliitikot varastavat rahojamme päästäkseen leikkimään joulupukkia?

Wow. Kunnollinen debaatti ja aidosti perustellut mielipiteet.

Where was this level of discussion before our past elections?

Had there been anything like this before the elections.. ja erityisesti jos toimittajakunta noin laajasti käsittäen, olisi ollut kunnolla hereillä… I doubt our darling ”BasicFinns” (true?, ”true”??? … oh please…) would have made nearly as far as they did.

Ehkä meillä on vielä toivoa sittenkin.

”most likely if a Finn goes and lives there for more than three years, they will start calling him an American as well, whether he likes it or not” – emilysandler.

Tuon lainauksen innoittamana kysyisinkin blogistilta parinkymmenen(?) vuoden Yhdysvalloissa asumisensa jälkeen, miten amerikkalaistunut olet? Tunnetko itsesi amerikkalaiseksi, suomalaiseksi, amerikansuomalaiseksi? Tunnetko enemmän yhteenkuuluuvuutta jenkkien vai meidän suomalaisten kanssa? Ovatko yhdysvaltalaiset ottaneet sinut avosylin vastaan (kuten lainauksessa hehkutettiin), yhtenä heistä?

NLO: Kuten varmaankin useimmat pari vuosikymmentä ulkomailla asuneet, olen hybridi, kahden kulttuurin väliin asettunut suomalais-amerikkalainen. Kiitos internetin sekä helpon matkustamisen aikakauden, suomalaisen kulttuurin ylläpitäminen on helppoa pitkänkin poissaolon jälkeen, eikä suomalaisuuteni lähde minusta pois edes kulumalla. Yhdysvalloissa tunnen itseni hyvinkin suomalaiseksi, mutta Suomessa vieraillessani havaitsen amerikkalaistumiseni selvästi. Urani, perheeni, valtaosa ystävistäni, sekä harrastukseni ovat Yhdysvalloissa, ja sikäli arkipäivässä sitoudun melko vahvasti Yhdysvaltoihin.

Mitä amerikkalaisten avoimuuteen sekä lämpimään vieraanvaraisuuteen tulee, allekirjoittaisin ainakin omakohtaisesti Emilyn toteamuksen, isoin kirjaimin.

”Mitä amerikkalaisten avoimuuteen sekä lämpimään vieraanvaraisuuteen tulee, allekirjoittaisin ainakin omakohtaisesti Emilyn toteamuksen, isoin kirjaimin.”

Suomi ja suomalaiset on muuten muuttuneet niistä ajoista luultavasti milloin täälä elelit. Olemme me nuoret aika helvetin puheliaita, aivoimia ja vittumaisia. Suomella ja suomalaisilla on nykyään itsetunto, moni ei kyyristele paskat housussa länteen tai itään.

Kateus tarttunut Suomesta? Teollisen vallankumouksen ja taloudellisen nousun ohella näytti Amerikassa vallinneen ilmapiiri jossa ei kadehdittu rikastumista , vaan kaikki pyrkivät kilpaa rikastumaan .
Kyllä minä väitän , että Suomessa vallitsee vahva kateuden ilmapiiri kaikilla tasoilla , se on erittäin ahdistavaa ja sitä selvästikin näyttää ruokkivan juuri sosialidemokraattinen ilmapiiri . Tietenkin isojen pomojen pilviä hipovat bonukset antavat sille vauhtia . Kaikki vielä näkevät että niitä ei ole ansaittu .

Olishan se tasaisempi tulonjako mukava mutta kyllä tuloerojakin tarvitaan . Vasemmisto himoitsee jälleen päästä viilaamaan veroasteikkoa , mutta sillä tavoin vain verotetaan lisää paljon ansaitsevia ulos maasta . Näin on jo tapahtunut .

En kylläkään tiedä mitä itse tekisin niin tolkuttomilla rahamäärillä , mitä jotkut maailmalla keräävät .

Väitteet siitä että amerikkalaisten keskuudessa olisi muka nyt ja aina harmonia ja vapaus rikastua jos haluaa on roskaa. Jos tutkimaan missä maassa syntyi aikoinaan kaikkein raivoisin yhteiskunnallinen taistelu epäoikeudenmukaisuutta ja ahneutta vastaan niin osoite on ilman muuta USA. Ainoa ero oli vain siinä, että kun Euroopassa hallitseva yhteiskunnallinen eliitti halusi edes kuunnella alhaalta päin tulevaa vaatimustulvaa, niin USA:ssa siihen vastattiin väkivallalla.

Näin kiteyttivät hallitsevan luokan lehdistö miten menetellä lakkoilevaa roskaväkeä vastaan:

”Hand grenades should be thrown among these union sailors, who are striving to obtain higher wages and less hours. By such treatment they would be taught a valuable lesson, and other strikers could take warning from their fate. ” (Chicago Times, 1877)

tai Chicago Tribune (1885) kerjäläisistä:

”When a tramp asks you for bread, put strychnine or arsenic on it and he will not trouble you any more, and others will keep out of the neighborhood.”

Mutta jos eliitti kuvitteli, että heidän voittonsa tulisi vain muutaman varoittavaksi esimerkiksi tehtävän manööverin kautta he erehtyivät. Kun sotilaat esimerkiksi olivat ampuneet hengiltä v. 1885 kaksi lakkolaista Chicagossa, julkaisi ammattiliitto IWPA (International Working People’s Association) oman manifestin joka kuului seuraavasti:

”Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or knife and lay in wait on the steps of the palaces of the rich and stab or shoot their owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination and without pity. Let us devastate the avenues where the wealthy live as [General] Sheridan devastated the beautiful valley of the Shenandoah. ”

Hollywood voi esittää kyllä mitä tahansa paskaa valkokankaalla amerikkalaisesta omenapiirakasta (peaceful harmony) mutta totuus kautta aikojen on ollut toinen. Terrorilla, manipuloinnilla, syyttämällä epäisänmaallisuudesta, tekemällä väestöä tietämättömäksi ja muilla psykologisilla tempuilla vastarinta on saatu lannistettua mutta aina se sieltä kuitenkin näyttää nousevan – tavalla tai toisella.